Mid-Range to High-End Buyer's Guide, January 2006
by Jarred Walton on January 2, 2006 1:00 AM EST- Posted in
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Memory Recommendations
The price of RAM has dropped a bit over the past few months on most products, and there are many good deals to be found. DDR2 is generally cheaper at most performance levels, though the highest quality parts all cost more than what we would recommend for most people. Mid-Range systems should have at least 2x512MB these days, and there are some applications that can use even more than 1GB of RAM. On the high end, while some might be tempted by the lower latencies offered by 512MB DIMMs, we recommend making the upgrade to 2x1GB now rather than later - doubling the amount of RAM for $80-$125 is more likely to have a noticeable impact than spending the same money to upgrade to one higher CPU bin. Note that AMD systems require DDR memory at present while the Intel systems that we've recommended all use DDR2.
Mid-Range DDR Recommendation: Crucial PC-3200 2x512MB Ballistix
Price: $115 shipped (Retail)
There are many value RAM offerings available, but they all come with CL2.5 or even CL3 timings. Considering the overclocking capability of the Crucial Ballistix, it's worth the extra $20 in our opinion. Crucial Ballistix is rated for 2-2-2-6-1T timings, and though it fell out of favor with the widespread availability of TCCD and CH5 DIMMs at lower prices, the current price has moved it back to the top of our price/performance recommendations. We reviewed this memory over a year ago, topping out at just above DDR500, and the memory dividers on Athlon 64 will give you plenty of possibilities for wringing the last ounce of performance from your RAM and CPU. There are a ton of 2x512MB DIMMs available, and given the difference in price, there isn't much reason to get anything less than 2-3-2-6 rated memory these days. You can also find DIMMs rated for as high as DDR600, but given the price premium, we would look towards 1GB DIMMs instead.
High-End DDR Recommendation: OCZ PC-4000 2x1024MB EL Gold
Price: $233 shipped (Retail)
Unless you spend a lot of money on your RAM, you can't get 1GB DDR DIMMs with the same low latencies as 512MB DIMMs. However, dual cores, multitasking, and the latest graphical manifestos in the gaming world can all benefit from more RAM rather than just faster RAM. The OCZ PC-4000 EL Gold manages still to give a decent amount of overclocking range, though it has to resort to 3-4-3 timings to do so. Personally, I'll take the 3-5% lower frame rates with up to 33% faster load times in games like Battlefield 2. I can't see the difference between 60 FPS and 63 FPS, but I can certainly tell the difference between 38 seconds and 63 seconds. (Yes, those are the actual load times for BF2 comparing 2GB to 1GB of RAM.) There are quite a few alternatives in the memory department, so rather than giving a small list, I'm simply going to refer you to our Pricing Engine. If you want both low latency and 1GB DIMMs, OCZ, Corsair and PDP have some reasonable options, though OC bandwidth varies. Mid-Range DDR2 Recommendation: G.Skill PC-4200 2x512MB Extreme
Price: $71 shipped (Retail)
The price/performance/bandwidth difference between DDR and DDR2 is becoming pretty interesting these days. While many will point to the lower latencies of DDR2 as a negative, remember that the latencies come with much higher clock speeds. CL4 at DDR2-533 is about 15 ns, and CL2 at DDR-400 is only 10 ns - still faster, but not "twice as fast". Given the bandwidth advantage and the fact that main memory accesses are buffered by the cache in many instances, DDR2 looks pretty respectable. You can also find DDR2-667 CL4 (12 ns latency) at a cost that's still lower than CL2 DDR memory. In the end, we went with the lower cost of PC2-4200 CL4, and G.Skill came out on top with their "Extreme" series. You can also find the same RAM in 1GB DIMMs for twice the cost, which is definitely worthy of consideration. Like the DDR RAM, there are plenty of alternative 2x512MB DIMMs available. The Corsair XMS2 C4 PC-5300 for $96 would be a close second, offering superior performance that can come in handy during overclocking attempts.
High-End DDR2 Recommendation: GeIL PC-5300 2x1024MB Ultra
Price: $217 shipped (Retail)
Unlike DDR memory, it is possible to get low latencies, high capacities, and high bandwidths all in the same package - without breaking the bank! GeIL's Ultra RAM is rated for 3-4-4-8 timings at DDR2-667, at a price lower than the DDR-500 memory with similar timings. The benefits of large amounts of RAM are present whether you use an AMD system or an Intel system, so if faster load times are more important to you than maximum frame rates, this RAM is a nice upgrade. Honestly, the PC-5300 memory speed isn't even required, as PC-4200 is more than sufficient for most tasks. You can find plenty of great deals on 2x1024MB DDR2 kits. You can save about $75 by sticking with PC-4200, for example, by getting the G.Skill Extreme 2x1024MB pack. While the performance of AMD's M2 chips probably won't be much better than current 939 chips, the better availability of high performance 1GB and larger DIMMs is definitely one advantage that we're looking forward to receiving.
The price of RAM has dropped a bit over the past few months on most products, and there are many good deals to be found. DDR2 is generally cheaper at most performance levels, though the highest quality parts all cost more than what we would recommend for most people. Mid-Range systems should have at least 2x512MB these days, and there are some applications that can use even more than 1GB of RAM. On the high end, while some might be tempted by the lower latencies offered by 512MB DIMMs, we recommend making the upgrade to 2x1GB now rather than later - doubling the amount of RAM for $80-$125 is more likely to have a noticeable impact than spending the same money to upgrade to one higher CPU bin. Note that AMD systems require DDR memory at present while the Intel systems that we've recommended all use DDR2.
Mid-Range DDR Recommendation: Crucial PC-3200 2x512MB Ballistix
Price: $115 shipped (Retail)
There are many value RAM offerings available, but they all come with CL2.5 or even CL3 timings. Considering the overclocking capability of the Crucial Ballistix, it's worth the extra $20 in our opinion. Crucial Ballistix is rated for 2-2-2-6-1T timings, and though it fell out of favor with the widespread availability of TCCD and CH5 DIMMs at lower prices, the current price has moved it back to the top of our price/performance recommendations. We reviewed this memory over a year ago, topping out at just above DDR500, and the memory dividers on Athlon 64 will give you plenty of possibilities for wringing the last ounce of performance from your RAM and CPU. There are a ton of 2x512MB DIMMs available, and given the difference in price, there isn't much reason to get anything less than 2-3-2-6 rated memory these days. You can also find DIMMs rated for as high as DDR600, but given the price premium, we would look towards 1GB DIMMs instead.
High-End DDR Recommendation: OCZ PC-4000 2x1024MB EL Gold
Price: $233 shipped (Retail)
Unless you spend a lot of money on your RAM, you can't get 1GB DDR DIMMs with the same low latencies as 512MB DIMMs. However, dual cores, multitasking, and the latest graphical manifestos in the gaming world can all benefit from more RAM rather than just faster RAM. The OCZ PC-4000 EL Gold manages still to give a decent amount of overclocking range, though it has to resort to 3-4-3 timings to do so. Personally, I'll take the 3-5% lower frame rates with up to 33% faster load times in games like Battlefield 2. I can't see the difference between 60 FPS and 63 FPS, but I can certainly tell the difference between 38 seconds and 63 seconds. (Yes, those are the actual load times for BF2 comparing 2GB to 1GB of RAM.) There are quite a few alternatives in the memory department, so rather than giving a small list, I'm simply going to refer you to our Pricing Engine. If you want both low latency and 1GB DIMMs, OCZ, Corsair and PDP have some reasonable options, though OC bandwidth varies. Mid-Range DDR2 Recommendation: G.Skill PC-4200 2x512MB Extreme
Price: $71 shipped (Retail)
The price/performance/bandwidth difference between DDR and DDR2 is becoming pretty interesting these days. While many will point to the lower latencies of DDR2 as a negative, remember that the latencies come with much higher clock speeds. CL4 at DDR2-533 is about 15 ns, and CL2 at DDR-400 is only 10 ns - still faster, but not "twice as fast". Given the bandwidth advantage and the fact that main memory accesses are buffered by the cache in many instances, DDR2 looks pretty respectable. You can also find DDR2-667 CL4 (12 ns latency) at a cost that's still lower than CL2 DDR memory. In the end, we went with the lower cost of PC2-4200 CL4, and G.Skill came out on top with their "Extreme" series. You can also find the same RAM in 1GB DIMMs for twice the cost, which is definitely worthy of consideration. Like the DDR RAM, there are plenty of alternative 2x512MB DIMMs available. The Corsair XMS2 C4 PC-5300 for $96 would be a close second, offering superior performance that can come in handy during overclocking attempts.
High-End DDR2 Recommendation: GeIL PC-5300 2x1024MB Ultra
Price: $217 shipped (Retail)
Unlike DDR memory, it is possible to get low latencies, high capacities, and high bandwidths all in the same package - without breaking the bank! GeIL's Ultra RAM is rated for 3-4-4-8 timings at DDR2-667, at a price lower than the DDR-500 memory with similar timings. The benefits of large amounts of RAM are present whether you use an AMD system or an Intel system, so if faster load times are more important to you than maximum frame rates, this RAM is a nice upgrade. Honestly, the PC-5300 memory speed isn't even required, as PC-4200 is more than sufficient for most tasks. You can find plenty of great deals on 2x1024MB DDR2 kits. You can save about $75 by sticking with PC-4200, for example, by getting the G.Skill Extreme 2x1024MB pack. While the performance of AMD's M2 chips probably won't be much better than current 939 chips, the better availability of high performance 1GB and larger DIMMs is definitely one advantage that we're looking forward to receiving.
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Sceptor - Monday, January 2, 2006 - link
In keeping with the mid-range theme...why was the ASRock 939Dual not included??It has most of the features of the low end Asus and DFI boards...at a reduced cost.
You can even run AGP and PCI-E cards together...not SLI however.
JarredWalton - Monday, January 2, 2006 - link
I consider the ASRock firmly in the "budget" category, given the $75 or so price. I will be sure to mention it in the next budget guide, but personally I don't worry about AGP support on any new Mid-Range system. But yes, it's a reasonable board for the cost.JarredWalton - Monday, January 2, 2006 - link
To reiterate: those who know what they're doing can get the ASRock to work fine. However:Memory issues with some products
BIOS support lacking
Mediocre quality control
Probably some other stuff....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustRatingReview.asp...">Newegg reviews indicate that about 15% of people seem to have issues. I would spend more for a bit nicer board (meaning nF4 Ultra or ATI Xpress 200 CF) on anything more than a budget build.
justly - Monday, January 2, 2006 - link
I can understand why you would call the Asrock a budget board.Although I find it interesting that you would use the comments on Newegg as an indication that the Arock board has issues since the http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp...">Newegg comments about the DFI nforce ultra infinity doesn't make your choice look to good.
In fact if you where to go by Neweggs comments the Arsock looks much better since the DFI indicates that about 50% of people seem to have issues with it.
JarredWalton - Monday, January 2, 2006 - link
Yeah, the DFI comments are all over the place. I have to say that I haven't seen much in the way of problems with the DFI Infinity. Basically, I'm doing a bit of reading between the lines. The chief complaints I'm seeing on the Infinity amount to "it's not a LanParty". I guess after running several CPUs and RAM types from stock settings all the way up through massive overclocks, I have trouble thinking that it's as bad as the Newegg reviews are saying - well, some of them anyway.Reading between the lines on the ASRock, the chief thing seems to be "OMG it has working AGP and PCIe!" Which is fine if you really have an AGP card that you like, but considering the best AGP cards can be equaled (usually) for around $200 now, it's not a huge issue. If I had a good system with an AGP card, I'd either live with it a while longer, or move it to a secondary role (or sell it) and get new components, you know? Six months ago, this board made a lot more sense; today, AGP is just 6 months older, while PCIe has two whole product lines you can't get on AGP.
Bleh. Let's just call it writer bias and be done with it. Like I always say, get what you like. My picks are merely some reasonable choices as I see it. :)
TowerShield - Wednesday, January 4, 2006 - link
Of course, that board still has that "OMG this board will support the AM2 socket" with it as well that will keep it going until right into the first year of AM2 MBs.Sceptor - Monday, January 2, 2006 - link
Presumably those who read this site will "know what they are doing"...Seeing as most readers here have grown up with computers. Just my 2 cents...Thanks for the replies..
Calin - Tuesday, January 3, 2006 - link
Nobody wants "free" problems - and when I bought my mainboard long time ago, I looked in just one more place except anandtech.comOrSin - Monday, January 2, 2006 - link
Fix the ram price and put in another pair.I did the same thing looking for where i could find it for $150
JarredWalton - Monday, January 2, 2006 - link
Corrected - see note above. The RAM name was linked, and the last page had it right. You can't even find generic 2x1GB DDR for $150; sorry to get your hopes up. :(